![]() Archives of Nethys are now the official Paizo srd, and is permitted to use Golarion-specific names and information. In a few different places I found people saying it was permitted for them in PFS, or that Paizo had an official ruling stating it was allowed, but no link or anything so I can't be sure. There is an entry in the FAQ about Magical Lineage, and it says the trait cannot reduce a spell below its original level. As mentioned, the Archives of Nethys are Paizo's official SRD, and on the site it notes which traits are PFS approved. Both Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter have the stamp of approval (hover over the round icon to the left of the trait name and it reads "PFS Legal").įurthermore, I'm reasonably confident this combination isn't the threat it seems. In both cases, you are limited to a specific spell, and both are contingent on using a metamagic feat, which you have to spend feats on. Now you are in the hole two traits and a feat just to get this setup. Sure, you could sling Magic Missiles all day long, but you've spent all that to spam one not especially powerful spell. Casting an intensified Fireball at 2nd level would be alright, I guess, but only useful once you are over level 10, and again, spending a pair of talents plus a feat (and not an especially useful feat in general) to buff just that one spell and not even get a payoff till level 11 is not really a threat to game balance. ![]() In the absence of any ruling otherwise and with both traits officially approved, I think you are in the clear.Morbid Eels wrote: Can I use Wayang Spellhunter, Magical Lineage and Spell Perfection on a cantrip and have it be a still, silent, quickened infinitely usable spell? Other examples I've found of this combination seem similarly gimmicky and not really game-breaking. You can't use any of those to lower a spell below it's normal level, but you could certain use any number of combinations to apply metamagic feats to a 0-level spell and have it remain at 0 level. If you are a prepared spell caster, the metamagic feats must be applied at the preparation stage. ![]() You can't discard the metamagic feats if they become less practical for a particular encounter (example, Acid Splash with Elemental Spell to make it deal Cold Damage with an Ice Elemental opponent). You can certainly prepare the same 0-level spell more than once, so you could experiement with combinations (like a Acid Splash of each element), but each one will use up and limit your cantrip slots. If you are a spontaneous caster, the metamagic feat increases the spell's casting time to a full-round action. The good news is that you can apply the metamagic whenever, but the increased casting time can be a real bother. Wayne Bradbury wrote: As is, several of my local PFS GMs have signed off on the +1d3+1 interpretation, so it's what I'm going with for the time being. I'd really rather an official answer one way or the other, but I doubt such a thing is forthcoming. I think the wording is pretty clear that it replaces and doesn't add, but I think it should add.
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